#3: Entrepreneurship, AI, and the Connection Between Confidence and Practice - Part 2

This is Part 2 of my conversation with Coach Anna McCoy, a speaker, coach, personal development specialist, entrepreneur, and creative genius.

We discuss what it means to develop and walk in your inner confidence and the power of empathy and practice in showing up as a self-assured woman.

We delve into the power of AI and how it can drastically improve your workflow and output as a woman in business and why the exercise of envisioning your ideal scene is crucial to achieving your goals and big ideas. 

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Chapters

• 1:32 Remi getting coached by Anna McCoy
• 9:48 Envisioning your ideal scene
• 14:38 Thriving as women on faith in the marketplace
• 20:04 Using technology and AI to improve women's businesses
• 27:21 On introversion and public personas

Transcript

Anna McCoy (46:44.959)
Okay, so now let me re-ask the question.

So the question is, were you successful at that job?

Remi (46:55.274)
I don't feel like I was.

Anna McCoy (46:57.711)
But tell me why you don't feel like it versus the fact of you being successful, right? Because you're saying, I don't feel like I was successful versus you. What kind of remarks did other people say about you?

Remi (47:17.783)
I mean, one of my managers sent me a thank you card because she thought I was doing a good job. I don't know if that matters, but I guess in my head.

Anna McCoy (47:25.091)
Why wouldn't it? Yes. This is my point. Listen, listen, this is such a beautiful example of how we talk ourselves, we talk ourselves into being failures in this way. It's like, if you legitimately look at your actions, see what you're saying, you're comparing your feelings to what you actually did, what you were capable of, your capabilities, right?

Remi (47:34.253)
Oh, let's go back home.

Remi (47:38.771)
Oh my God.

Remi (47:49.654)
Mm.

Remi (47:54.37)
Yeah, yeah.

Anna McCoy (47:54.703)
your actions, your execution. And I already know you don't have to tell me if you were good at this job. I know if it had deadlines, you met them. I know that you were capable if they told you what they wanted you to do. Now, what you didn't like was the job. You didn't like it. And there's nothing wrong with not liking it.

Remi (48:17.111)
Hmm.

Anna McCoy (48:18.479)
but it's not a stamp on your capabilities. You know, we're good at things because we have skill sets, we have knowledge, and then if you put on top of those two things, your ability to keep your commitments and your agreements and build trust with your team, with the people that you're working with. Now, that's what real work is about. When we add the next layer of that to joy,

and passion about our subject matters, then it just pushes the stuff over the top. It's no longer work. It's like enjoyable. This is what I was called for. This is purpose. And so you can't subtract all of the things that you did effectively as being unsuccessful. Sorry about that.

Remi (48:54.268)
the top.

Remi (48:59.575)
I love it.

Anna McCoy (49:15.139)
I got all my devices, I turned off a couple. Sorry about that audience. But yeah, but you can't separate those two. You have to learn how to live in those moments. And well, you can separate them from your good success, right? And leave them where they are. That's exactly what that was. You didn't like the work, but you could do the work. So it has nothing to do with your failure or your success. It's not a failure.

Remi (49:18.987)
No, sir.

Anna McCoy (49:42.083)
It's a point that I made a decision and you got some clarity. I'm not doing that anymore. Moving on.

Remi (49:48.972)
I love it.

Anna McCoy (49:49.039)
Do you see? Because it didn't make you feel good. And that's wonderful, because you're not going to do it again. You're not going to stay in the same grind. Many people never get off the wheel. They know it doesn't feel good. They become stressful. They get sick. They get ill. But again, going right back to that moment where I said, you may have where I thought this was a different situation. Most people will stay because of the work, because of these.

Remi (49:55.507)
Mm-mm.

Anna McCoy (50:15.803)
They have a job, they don't want to quit, they don't want change, all of these things, and they stay on the will. In your case, not the case. I don't believe that that's the case for you. Just receive it as your, that's one for the books, move it on, took it for the team, and let's get going. You know, and you have to ask yourself, how much of that are you using today, that knowledge base, in a way that brings you joy?

Remi (50:35.148)
I love it.

Remi (50:43.522)
Yeah, gosh, I love it. Coach, I didn't know this was gonna be a coaching session today, but I love it.

Anna McCoy (50:48.911)
Well, that's kind of, when you talk to a coach, it's hard not to be coached, right? It's just, it's in the genes to, I mean, when you live a life of encouragement, right? To encourage people to, you just want them to live their best life and be the absolute best in anything. In direct opposition, I'm rising up, right? I'm like, okay.

Remi (50:52.098)
I know! That's what you get! Oh.

Yes.

Remi (51:11.86)
Yeah.

Anna McCoy (51:19.011)
No, no, no. Let's just go ahead and talk about that for a second, because if that little, we call them gremlins is talking to you, it's going to meet you up ahead somewhere. And it doesn't have any place in your life because we're reframing the way you look at it. Right? So it doesn't come up again for you. It's not a part of your story anymore. You've reframed that story.

And you can reframe the story in a way that, you know, if I were to ask you what was one of the work experiences that you learned the most from, right? This could be one of those experiences that you learned the most from that said, you know, what I learned is that I learned to accept the things, like really be able to accept and define.

Remi (52:00.226)
Absolutely.

Anna McCoy (52:14.087)
how I wanted to work in life. And this wasn't it, right? But it helped me to become even more clear about what really mattered to me and how I wanted to participate in this digital world. And that was graphic design. So I wouldn't have come to that knowledge without this opportunity. So for that, I'm grateful.

Remi (52:35.534)
That's so true. And there's something I used to be very insecure about, which kind of ties to what you're saying now. Growing up, and for so long, not even just growing up as a child, even as an adult, up until very recently, or even sometimes now, to be honest with you, I used to think that I don't know what I want to do, but I do know what I don't want to do. So when I tell people I don't want to do this,

Anna McCoy (52:40.343)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (52:56.487)
Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Remi (53:03.606)
I don't want to do that. And they asked me, well, what do you want to do? I'm like, I don't know. It's like, so you just don't know anything. And it used to make me so insecure. Like I didn't know where I wanted to go and how do I square that. And that's one experience that job actually taught me is that I know that I don't want to do this. But at the time that I left that job, I couldn't tell what I wanted to do. I was just still in this phase of I'm not sure, you know? Yeah, that was pretty hard.

Anna McCoy (53:03.952)
Good one.

Anna McCoy (53:08.358)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (53:12.367)
Yeah.

Anna McCoy (53:21.859)
Yes.

Anna McCoy (53:26.404)
Yes.

Anna McCoy (53:32.899)
Well, that's all right. I mean, the hard things are just the stepping stones to the next. I mean, I just love, I love, I can tell you this is that when we're talking about confidence, again, everything happens situational, right? That was a situation you were in. It wasn't a condition. It was a situation that you made a decision about. You're going to be faced with new situations and how you approach those.

Remi (53:33.016)
It was pretty.

Remi (53:36.986)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Anna McCoy (54:01.059)
is certainly gonna determine how confident you are. I'm of the mindset, I am confident, right? I am, that's the first step of confidence, right? Then, because I am confident, then I'm going to prepare myself for certain things and not just show up off the cuff, not just procrastinate for the last minute, not just because my end goal is to be what? Confident in that particular situation.

Remi (54:08.014)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Anna McCoy (54:31.555)
And so my mindset is I am. Now I've got to prepare myself to execute that confidence when I'm faced with a certain situation. I hope that really encourages someone because I think many of us will wallow in our lack of self-confidence. And you're not even in a situation, right? It's like you're just going off of your past experiences.

Remi (54:37.666)
Mm.

Remi (54:54.434)
That's true.

Remi (54:59.376)
Mm.

Anna McCoy (54:59.391)
what you did in that situation, what you did in that situation. So if we're, if we would prepare ourselves, like I was helping one of my goddaughters and she has a small business and instead of her, she says, I just don't have the confidence to ask. I said, why don't you send me the questions, right? Send me, uh, if you have a challenge, just send me a note and I'm going to respond to you and I'll give you some questions. And all I want you to do is ask the questions with confidence, right? What did she really do?

What she really did was prepared herself, right? Because she could have gone into that conversation with that vendor or that client, and she would have pretended like she knew or she wouldn't have said anything, versus reaching out and asking for help, and I can give her some guidance. Now that's preparation. Do you understand? Now she's more prepared to send that email or to have that conversation.

Remi (55:33.225)
Mmm.

Anna McCoy (55:57.355)
And that then what? We call it boost her confidence. But she's actually acting in confidence.

Remi (56:04.878)
Gosh, I love that, I love that. When we were working on the concept, the foundational concept for She Pact, I reached out to you and you had me do an exercise. What you wanted me to do was to envision my ideal scene and to write it down, to write it down like it already happened.

Anna McCoy (56:12.675)
Yes.

Anna McCoy (56:20.451)
Mm-hmm.

Remi (56:24.478)
And I've done something similar in the past, mostly when I was thinking about my career, I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do to make an income in a way that really works for me. And I was really stuck at the time. I was trying to figure out how to just thrive. You know, I didn't go into so much detail when I did that exercise. I didn't. And I wish I had because I think my vision could have been clearer.

Anna McCoy (56:24.999)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (56:34.05)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (56:39.148)
Yes.

Mm-hmm.

Remi (56:46.354)
as to what I really wanted. Can you talk to us about that exercise and why it's so powerful and walk us through how to really lean into it?

Anna McCoy (56:51.963)
Mm-hmm.

Yes, we have, I call that, that's actually what we call our GPS, your goal positioning system. And it's a simple process, oftentimes to reach a goal. The first thing you do is you, what is the goal, right? We identify that goal. The very next thing you do is identify what behavior you need to change to get to the goal. Most people don't even consider that. We call them policies, whether it's a team.

Remi (57:18.286)
Thank you.

Anna McCoy (57:23.467)
What different policies do we need to put in place? And policies are not always bad things. They're structural things, right? Once that happens, then we identify the projects that we want to achieve, then the executable steps that we want to do specifically, two to three steps under each one of those. And then once we finish that, then there's this question. Now we know what we have to do, right? The work that we have to do.

Now I want everybody to pause and I want you to think about the ideal scene. I want you to see all this work completed. I want you to see the results of what results and outcomes are different by the way, but I want you to see the outcome, the image of what you've just created. And when you can take a moment to write a one to two sentence ideal scene on anything that you want to do, any goal, right? That you want to achieve.

your opportunity or your percentage skyrockets to your ability to complete it. Why? Because it gives you a clear visual space. Now that is the ideal scene because in that ideal scene, it is present tense. And that's where I started to tell you, why don't you identify what it is now? Where most of us, we talk about what we're gonna do in the future. What ShePacks looks like now.

is an organization that caters to women leadership who might consider themselves introverts. And they are, what do you call it? They are walking in confidence and exceptional leadership as introverted C-level individuals. See, that's a very present tense situation. If you wanna make it more colorful,

You can do that as well. And that's where AI comes in. To help you to really create an image of something or just the words to flower those words up a little bit more so that you have a greater impact on your imaging so that you can move towards that. It's really quite powerful when I think about bringing AI into that whole GPS because we didn't have it previously, right?

Remi (59:24.802)
Yeah.

Anna McCoy (59:49.627)
We had to sit there and think about all these things. And then when people don't think they're good writers, they impact their ability to visualize their outcome. And that's where another, you know, where I think AI using the audible features or using chat GPT or BART can actually help us break that barrier and become even more effective. So I thought I'd just throw that in there for you.

Remi (59:58.926)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Remi (01:00:13.974)
I love it, I love it.

Oh yeah, absolutely. We're going to talk about that. I love that. This idea of really writing... So right now we're doing like a series in Shipart where we have like some questions to really bring out people's stories, you know? Because sometimes I feel like it's all in our head. We don't know. We can't break down the things that we've been through. We've walked through the lessons we've learned and all of that.

Anna McCoy (01:00:26.887)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (01:00:33.897)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (01:00:40.667)
Mm-hmm.

Remi (01:00:42.866)
So, and I'm encountering this with some of the ladies is just finding it difficult to put words to their experiences, to answer the questions in a way that really helps them think and contemplate and reflect and kind of bring that out. And that will be helpful to somebody else. So I really love the idea of the AI aspect of things and how we can use that to enhance our workflow. And thinking about young women, and also when we think about our faith

Anna McCoy (01:00:52.976)
Maybe.

Remi (01:01:12.82)
perspective of being women of faith, I have a question. When you think about the future, how do you think young women of faith can be uniquely positioned to thrive and walk in the halls of power and influence? You know, not just as, oh, we're consumers, we're taking out in all this information, we're buying all the stuff, we're using all the things, but as creators and producers, how can we thrive?

Anna McCoy (01:01:36.603)
Mm-hmm. Well, I think that when we think about being women of faith, right, and being persons of faith, I have never, when I think about my journey and I have traveled all over the world, I think when we think about being a person of faith, a person of faith is what's within you and how you value your life, right? And what values you build your beliefs upon and your beliefs then.

actually will influence your actions. And so years ago, I came up with this whole idea of kingdompreneur, you've probably heard of it now, but I tried trademarking it probably 25 years ago before we were ever talking this language of kingdom entrepreneurship in that way. But I will say this is that we're in a environment, right? Where our Christian faith is

I would almost say in some ways being hijacked, right, being minimized, because of all of the polarity in politics, it's starting to create an image of a believer or a Christian that is unfortunately not as sound as we truly are, right? And that, you know, we're going to see that continue to unfold.

in the next decades how that experience is going to impact your ability to walk as a woman of faith in the workplace and all of these types of things. I do believe that regarding your question, how do women of faith thrive? You thrive, right? You flourish not because you are a woman of faith in the marketplace, it's because you are a woman of faith.

meaning that your faith directly connects you to your outcomes, to your beliefs, to your actions, how you show up with your values, your core values in a marketplace or if you're starting a business. And that's the beautiful thing about entrepreneurship is that you can start your business based on strong biblical foundations and values. We can look at Chick-fil-A.

Anna McCoy (01:03:59.771)
Chick-fil-A has not moved from their core values. Their core values is being kind to people, providing high quality things, valuing family. They do it by being closed on Sundays so that their people can do what? Rest. That's how we in the marketplace, how we can show up by making decisions that have a higher value, perhaps, on people and community.

than what we would do in the normal mainstream. And so I think when it comes to our faith, it is our, I know that I have been in circles around the world, I've been in cabinet rooms, I've been sitting with presidents. I mean, all of these things that you think about, you know what I mean? You might, well, you see those people over there, but the reality is, is that all of us are individuals and we're just humans. We've got different roles and responsibilities to play.

But my role in that moment sometimes is to be a voice of consciousness, a voice of good, a voice of spirit, a voice that says, thus said the Lord for this particular moment, right? And being willing and courageous enough to do it. And so, and I've gotten myself along with my dear friend, Linda Wallace, we've gotten ourselves in all sorts of situations, but we did it because we believe

We were women of faith, we were being messengers of God, we were sent ones, and these are the messages that we were to give. And so I would encourage any woman that is a believer or a woman of faith, could be any religious person, right? Because you are those things if you have the ability to carry them out. There's a place for you in the marketplace, your character, your integrity.

your values, your creativity, your genius, it's all available and you don't have to shrink back because you're a woman of faith. You don't have to put your faith on, you know, over here to be able to be exceptional in the marketplace. And I would encourage you to just go with that. Just go with it and don't use it as because I am, then maybe I can do this or that, just live it.

Anna McCoy (01:06:24.479)
and it'll open doors for you as you move forward.

Remi (01:06:28.202)
I love it. Thank you for that, which that's inspiring and encouraging. So speaking of Kingdom printers, let's talk about how how.

Anna McCoy (01:06:30.805)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (01:06:36.39)
Yes.

Remi (01:06:40.426)
women can really use technology. The tools that we have, you talked about the AI, the tools that are available to actually move ahead with business, because women will find ourselves in different situations. Maybe you have a family, you have a lot going on. So somehow you're not able to use all of the time that you would have if you have all the other responsibilities to focus on your business and really move fast and more.

Anna McCoy (01:06:44.675)
Yes.

Anna McCoy (01:06:50.573)
Yeah.

Anna McCoy (01:06:54.822)
Yes.

Uh huh.

Anna McCoy (01:07:02.728)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (01:07:07.299)
Yes. Yeah.

Remi (01:07:07.974)
forward. How can we think about, and I know that you have, there's a class that you teach on AI, how can we use the tools to actually improve our workflow and do more in a short period of time?

Anna McCoy (01:07:13.743)
Yes.

Anna McCoy (01:07:22.515)
I would say this, if you are not using AI, you're really doing yourself a disservice, right? And if you don't take the step to be proactive in this, you're gonna take the step. And when you do, it may be a lot more painful than it is now, because it may cost you an opportunity, it may cost you your job, it may cost you something that if you...

take the time now, and I mean now, to begin to think about how you can use it, how you can incorporate it into the things that you're doing. And it takes time to do this. I've spent the last 13 months educating myself on AI, not just using ChatGPT or some of these different applications you might see on social media that they tell you to go and do, but I've taken the time to understand what

machine learning is, what large language models, neural networks, deep learning, what does this mean and what type of applications are going to affect our future? And so I really consider myself a futurist, right? I've always been a high tech person, like thinking in the future. And so for those individuals, it doesn't matter what you're doing. And this is the thing about women. We...

Remi (01:08:40.523)
know that.

Anna McCoy (01:08:48.487)
create more needs based out of need based entrepreneurship than anyone, especially women of color, right? You need some money, so you go out and sell lipstick. You need some money, you figure out something. And then some of these opportunities turn into incredible business enterprises. And so we're gonna continue to do that. But in doing so, stop trying to figure this out.

Remi (01:08:58.37)
That is true.

Anna McCoy (01:09:16.719)
There is no badge of honor for you to try to figure out how to communicate, how to create a landing page, how to write an email newsletter about a subject matter that is important to you. You don't get a badge of honor because you can write it and not refer to anything. You know what I'm saying? It's like moving from typewriters to word processing. You know, some, I just like my typewriter. Yeah. But now one sheet, two sheet, you ran out of white out.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, come on now, let's just move on. Cause this is what's called, see what's gonna happen to people. I'm one of the people that have visionary change. I'm a visionary changer. I embrace it, the early adopter. I'm like looking for what's getting ready to change, looking for the trend. And then there are some people who will just evolve with it. But in this case, there will be many people who will evolve out of.

crisis. They won't be able to keep up. They're trying to figure out how are they producing these amazing things where they're producing it because they're using tools. How can they produce that contract so quickly? Or that PowerPoint presentation so quickly? Where are they getting these ideas? This is what you must understand. Nothing is happening until you give ChatGPT or whatever AI system a prompt to do something. If we can get over that hump,

then everybody's equal. Once you're able to learn what types of things that AI can do, now you can start to excel and then begin to focus on how can this help my business. So let me just, if I can take a moment, I was walking just a couple of days ago, 30 minute walk, in that 30 minutes, I created 14 outlines.

or different books I was just thinking about. Now in my past life, before AI, I would sit there and I would mull over one book for eight years. Do you understand what I'm saying? And so when we think about this, and I am using the audible version of AI, I'm not writing it out, and this is what I encourage everyone to do, is use the audible version.

Remi (01:11:27.201)
Yeah.

Remi (01:11:30.606)
Absolutely.

Anna McCoy (01:11:43.543)
right? So that you can just speak what you're thinking. And as soon as you speak that, it's going to do its thing. And you don't have to worry and get stuck behind the writer's block wall. I don't know what to say. What should I tell it to do? But you know how to talk and see, here's the objective of AI is to get so good that you'll be so comfortable talking to it, just like you and I are talking. That's the goal. It's not the goal is not for you to type in a prompt.

Remi (01:11:55.977)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (01:12:12.571)
The goal is for you to speak to it, to communicate to it. That's why you're gonna have the thing in your ear that's the size of this or smaller that is a complete AI learning system. A whole model is sitting in your ear on a little, you know, an AI chip, but it's gonna fit in your ear. You won't be able to do it. You'll say, oh, I need such and such. Yes, go ahead and do something. Do this, do this. There's a device that came out at the CES called Rabbit One.

which they put the chip in a little box, right? A little device that you can talk to and that's speaking to us just like this. And so I would just encourage anyone, I know you've heard all the stuff that AI is gonna do, keep listening to the foolishness, okay? It's gonna do all that because there are always bad actors in the world. But for you, I know you're not that person. You're not the bad actor. You're the person that needs this to help you get that.

Remi (01:13:04.428)
Yeah.

Anna McCoy (01:13:10.551)
newsletter out to help you get that landing page done, to help you communicate to that grant writer that you want to apply for that grant. That's who you are and you need to get that in your mind that there's something out here to help me be better at what I do. And I'm telling you, it's to get smart with AI so you can check out Anna McCoy.com and take that course. I'll be

Anna McCoy (01:13:40.587)
or put something in the chat that you're interested in and I'll make sure that you get on the list.

Remi (01:13:46.726)
Absolutely. I love it. Y'all coach is she has the goods every time. I'm like I need a tool for something There's a tool that coach can point me to and that's amazing. Yes So, um, we are just extending this open invitation to everyone listening if you want to learn more about how to use AI to improve your business and your workflow Get on it, you know attend the workshop that coach has

Anna McCoy (01:13:54.927)
Yeah.

Anna McCoy (01:14:10.503)
Mm-hmm.

Remi (01:14:13.182)
It's called Get Smart with AI. We will leave all the links in the show notes so that you can find it. And yeah, just do it. Just do it. Stop thinking about it. Go ahead and do it. Thank you so much. Awesome, awesome. So let's talk about some lighter things, some light note questions. I remember when we were working on the website for ShePACT, not the website, but just the foundational concept for ShePACT, you said you took the quiz. There's a quiz on the website.

Anna McCoy (01:14:15.951)
Mm-hmm.

Anna McCoy (01:14:22.275)
Yeah, absolutely.

Anna McCoy (01:14:30.871)
Okay.

Anna McCoy (01:14:38.658)
Mm-hmm.

Remi (01:14:43.102)
and then about are you a driven, introverted woman? I guess my question is, Coach, are you an introvert? Like, where do you fall on that spectrum? I'm really curious.

Anna McCoy (01:14:43.546)
Yes.

Anna McCoy (01:14:52.475)
This is so beautiful because I think over time you will change, right? When I wrote Woman Act Now, it was in my 40s, right? Now I'm in my close to, I'm late 50s, close to 60. And what happens is we change. And I also believe that we, like you, personalities are different than, we have what's called our public personas, then we have a private persona.

Remi (01:14:56.498)
Mmm.

Anna McCoy (01:15:21.407)
I have always been a public extrovert in a personal private introvert, always. I have always been a person that can really entertain myself like constant head down in learning, constantly being introspective, constantly pursuing spiritual growth. All of those are internal things. These are things for, and I'm not.

in all relationships, I wasn't the talker, although extroverted, you know, out in public, I can talk and communicate and walk in a room. I can talk to every single person there. It doesn't drain my energy. I'm there to bring energy. You see what I'm saying? So as soon as I walk in, I know that who I am in this public environment, I've always felt that as soon as I walk out of my home, I have a responsibility to bring love.

Remi (01:16:07.693)
Yeah.

Anna McCoy (01:16:19.387)
to bring joy, to bring passion and energy to the public, even if it's the person, my neighbor down the street, or, you know, it's just, that's how I live my life. And so I would have to say, after COVID, or during COVID, when I didn't have the public personality at work, I became more of my authentic self. In that authentic self,

Remi (01:16:46.21)
Mm.

Anna McCoy (01:16:48.627)
is more introverted, meaning I don't need a lot of friends for me. I don't have to be engaged in everything. I don't have to be apart. I am shocked that I could be working remotely in my home for weeks at a time and never go anywhere. I'm talking to the grocery store. You see what I'm saying? And so, and it brings me so much joy, but I communicate to people, you know what I'm saying? I communicate to my family and friends and

Remi (01:17:03.494)
Yeah. Oh my god.

Remi (01:17:12.75)
Mmm.

Anna McCoy (01:17:18.415)
different things like that, but at the end of the day, if I'm called upon, I'm showing up 100% because I have the skillset of being an extrovert. You understand, I've got that skill. And so many of my friends, even now, have had to go through a transformational experience with me over the last three to four years because they noticed that I've changed. And I've just become more.

Remi (01:17:44.781)
Hmm.

Anna McCoy (01:17:46.807)
of who I truly am and who I want to be in my future. Like that's being a thought leader, a guide, a spiritual sage, you know, things that take time to develop, you know, on the internal or the intrinsic values that I have as opposed to my external persona.

You've talked about empathy, confidence, faith, so many things, right? I'm sure they're like, who is this woman? Like backstory, please. Can you just tell us a little bit about what you've done, your experience and who you are, who's Katana.

Anna McCoy (01:42:09.394)
Yeah.

Anna McCoy (01:42:14.191)
Yes. Thank you for asking. When I think about who I am, I could say this, I'm an intentional human that has had an opportunity to do many different things over my career. I have, you know, I've started a business back in 1998 called Urban America. It's still here today. It's almost, what, 25 years later.

We've raised over almost a billion dollars to do projects around the world, or not around the world, but around the United States. Today we're doing master development work. I'm not in the business on a full-time basis, but that's still important to us to build community while we're building our apartments, building...

our community space there. We're breaking ground soon in Kansas City on a project that we're doing there in South Point in Prospect that's really important to the city. So from that, I've been an author. I've written three books. I have about three or four different eBooks that I haven't released. I'm also, I've traveled the world to educate and empower women.

I've been to probably over 40 countries and just spent a lot of time giving back to the world as much as I can of my intelligence, of my genius, of my kindness. And most importantly, you are loved and appreciated and sharing that message around the world. That's really, really important to me. And I think when it comes to my past, I don't talk a lot about.

You know what I mean? It's because it's in the past. I am more intentional about what I'm doing in my present. All of those things help me be who I am today, but they are not what I am. You know what I'm saying? It's a knowledge base that I can tap into, and it certainly is social proof that I'm intelligent, I've been successful, those kinds of things.

Anna McCoy (01:44:34.423)
I'm most interested in people knowing my heart, right? That my intention, that I am a guide, I'm always helpful to try to help people to the next level. When it comes to what I do for business, what I do for business is I help people solve their problems. Whether it's business or whether it's personal.

I use my skill set as a consultant to help them navigate their business strategy to get the results that they're after. That could be whether it's a consultant or in coaching, both of those things apply. What I think I am most interested in doing, and that is doing things that will change the world. Right now, I'm...

out here making it just like everybody else. And this is my pathway, right? Through business consulting, using AI, training people, educating people. But I have some other much, much bigger and larger events that will happen in my life until I get to that moment. You know what I'm saying? And so having been a person of wealth and then taking a journey, being married, going through divorce.

that's terrible for anyone, and it certainly was not the best for me. And then having to recover, re-emerge, and then with COVID, that completely put a whole nother life into works. Income went to zero, all of these things happen that now on this side in 2024.

I am grateful for the access and the opportunity to continue to build a better future for myself. And I think it would require another discussion on when we get to confidence and we talk about this at a different age, you know, in your 50s and your 60s, that's a different conversation that I'd love to have with you as it relates to some of the experiences that I've had. I wrote WOMENACT now in my 40s, my 50s was a...

Anna McCoy (01:46:53.351)
part of unbecoming to become who I am now. It's taken me literally these eight years to build a new foundation for myself. And I'm on that pathway now.

Remi (01:47:08.234)
I love it. I love it coach. And definitely you're going to come back on the podcast. And I also see like a sheep hat workshop for this, you know, for the ladies in the community, you know, to talk about business, talk about AI, talk about, you know, just confidence, all of these things. I see that happening. Thank you so much. So very much, sis. I love you with all my heart. I'm so glad we're able to do this today. Thank you for joining us.

Anna McCoy (01:47:13.095)
Thank you.

Anna McCoy (01:47:17.799)
Sure, absolutely. Yes.

Anna McCoy (01:47:32.223)
And thank you so much for having me.